I have returned from a productive (and loooong) day at the citizen summit. Yay!

I got up ridiculously early this morning to catch trains to get to Odense Station, where a bunch of us was picked up by a slightly late shuttlebus. We got name signs, tables and voting stuff and ended up sitting at round tables with a bunch of strangers in short order.

And then a politician went on stage and did a welcome speach and we were go.

The thing was organized in rounds, so to speak, about different subject - agriculture and forestry, hobby use of nature, how do we combine different things and how don't we, etc. Each round started with a five minute speech by an academic or otherwise relevant person, and then we spent varied amounts of time debating the round's questions and trying to think of brilliant ideas to revolutionize the world (I might have proposed growing sea weed in the Cph harbor canals (well, if they're clean enough for swimming...)) Each table was lead by a table head, who wasn't allowed opinions, but made sure there was an order of speech and stuff.

And then we'd vote on the big screen with our voting thingies.

And sometime in between there was lunch (which was those tables go get food and then sit back down and debate, then those tables... - food was fine, but I could have used a second helping, except it didn't feel like the moment to go get it ) and coffee and stuff, if you blatantly left your table mid-debate to go get it - there were no breaks included, the closest was when a couple of young people from a sports academy of some sort showed up to make people jump in place a bit.

And then there was another politician making another short speech and then I went home. That was a long day.

Though I am somewhat cheered by the voting results for the various questions. I mean, they do seem a bit environmentally friendly, right? Some of them?
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From: [personal profile] luzula


Very interesting, thanks! : )

How self-sustained is Denmark currently in food supply (that is, how many people could you feed with the food that is currently produced in Denmark)?
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From: [personal profile] luzula


Interesting! About about 50 % of the food eaten in Sweden is produced here (I don't know how much food is exported). Which is a lot less than it was even 20-30 years ago--I think there was a deliberate downsizing of agriculture in the 80's-90's. I suppose because it was unprofitable? I dunno, I think it's a good idea that we be able to feed ourselves.

Still, if all contact was lost with the outside world, we could easily feed ourselves a few times over

Well, I guess it would depend on whether you got cut off from your oil deposits as well, or not? I mean, current agriculture is very reliant on fossil fuel (and also imports of phosphorus). It would have to change really a lot to accommodate changes to that--I read that when Cuba got cut off from oil when the Soviet Union fell, the proportion of people working in agriculture went from a few percent to about 20 percent. But yeah, I guess you could feed yourselves anyway.
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I think that's logical as that age group often has young children.
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